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Lister page 5... surviving the hurricane Jeanne
 

The Lister Generator Project Page 5

Holy Shuckin' Fit Batman!!...it's only been three weeks and here we go again....hurricane Jeanne

By now, the genset had about 125 hours on it and had been very reliable.

This was about to change...

Two days before the hurricane, I was demonstrating the engine to a friend when I noticed a large fuel leak coming from one of the "B" nuts on the fuel injector pump. It was not loose. After a quick examination, I found the line had split open due to crappy quality. No where to be found was an engine shop that could make a new line.

I went to NAPA auto parts and bought some 1/4" steel brake line and tried frantically to fabricate a replacement. By using the old "B" nuts, the new Napa brake line and a couple of 1/4" brass ferrules, I was able to make a replacement that actually worked! The question was ....would it hold up?


The new line with brass ends.

As the hurricane approached and the power went off, I gritted my teeth and cranked it up praying the temporary repair would hold.

After the storm passed, I went to check on the generator. AAHHHHHH !!
Now the other injector line is leaking. Both lines have failed within 150 hours.
Fortunately, I had plenty of brass ferrules left and quickly cut the leaking end off and made a new end. I tightened it and it started up with no leaks. Now the engine is running on a homemade brake line repair with and a repaired stock injector line with brass ferrules. I'll note that the  brake line was hanging in there with no leaks.
All of this is not good, but considering the dismal state of my home after the second hurricane finished wiping out the yard and peeling off my shingles, I felt lucky. At least the screen pool enclosure didn't kill anyone as it collapsed.

So two days into the cleanup, the listeroid still chugging away, temporary fixes still holding, I'm beginning to feel a bit better about the whole generator project.

 Day three, in the morning, I go to the shop to crank up the engine for the days fun. After it's running, I check the oil pressure and notice it's low with the pulses only registering 10 psi instead of the usual 35. As I'm using a $4 Home Depot water pressure gauge for oil pressure, I write it off to cheapo indications and get on with the cleanup. That afternoon, While refueling the engine, I check the oil pressure again..  No oil pressure!!! This thing  has been running all day with no oil pressure!! AHHHH!

I shut it down and begin to investigate. My first guess which turns to be right, is that the oil pump plunger return spring has broken. Well, broken is an understatement. I see it's been shattered into 7 pieces.

A quick search through my junk pile yields a similar looking and feeling spring. I install it, crank it up and it works fine with  35 PSI again. It continues to run with the same spring.

Finally, after two hurricanes, and over 250 hours of running, the power comes back on and I relax to ponder the days events. It's also time for an oil change to get it ready for the next hurricane.

I drained the oil through a fine screen to see what bad things I could find. Amazingly, the screen was pretty clean. A few more grains of sand, some lint but nothing else, most importantly, no white bearing material. I pulled the little magnets from the sump.
I placed these magnets 250 hours ago to capture magnetic material to keep it from circulating thru the oil system. Here is a picture of two of the four magnets. They did their job eh? Lots of powdery steel, but nothing unusual for the size of this engine considering it was breaking in. The next oil change should show little metal on the magnets. DON'T run one of these engines without magnets!


I washed the black crud out with solvent before refilling the engine with Rotella T oil. Also made a new gasket for this cover from cork as the stock paper one leaked badly

Here is a summary of the first 250 hours of operation:

oil used :1 quart per 100 hours
Average fuel use: 6-7 gallons /day (18 hour day)
Average fuel consumption: .35 gal/hr

Breakdowns: 3
Blown injector line
Other injector line
Loss of oil pressure

Oil leaks:6
1 Tappet
2 lower TRB cover nuts
1 Governor shaft
1 Crank shaft seal
1 Oil door cover (fixed with new made gasket)

I have given up and fixing most leaks and place cloth diapers under them every morning to catch oil. Just crappy quality and one must be prepared to have a messy engine.

 Added note 10/20/2004

After much searching, I've located some aluminum sealing washers and started placing them under the nuts that have been leaking oil. The results so far are promising as they aren't leaking anymore. Time will tell if this permanently fixes this problem. (didn't work)

I still planning on building a concrete generator house this winter and moving the genset out there. This was it can run unattended without worry of a malfunction torching my shop. As this project get underway, I'll start a new page following its' progress.

In the new installation, It will have a catch pan under it that will fill a small bottle with a float switch in it. Any significant leaks will fill the bottle and the switch will kill the engine.

As expected, building machines like this is akin to tinkering and one must be prepared to experience some difficulty. I am frequently asked if I'd do it again. The answer is yes, only I'd deal directly with the engine factory instead of an exporter. The manufacturers seem quite enthusiastic and will build engines to your specification and adjust quality to meet that requirement as well. Next time, I'll specify an engine that doesn't leak oil, had better injector lines, and is run in at the factory with virgin clean oil so as not to contaminate the case with casting sand and other crud.

The other thing I would do differently, is to completely tear the engine down and inspect it before running it the first time.
 

Date: November 2004

The Engine marked "LOVSON" was exported through "LOVSON EXPORTS". The Engine Manufacturer M/s. ANAND ENTERPRISE became aware of my problems.

He identified the engine as one of his own and has been following the progress of this project. First of all, he immediately sent me not two but four new injector lines express mail. I installed them and they work fine. He has taken steps to improve his engines in the area's I feel were deficient. It like to give praise to Mr. Patal for his devotion and quick response to my problems. He could have easily ignored me but instead chose to jump in and fix the problem. My hats of to Mr. Patel for his excellent business ethics. He has made other changes to these engines recently including a magnetic oil plug, and breaking using new clean oil to reduce the chance of casting sand contamination.

Mr. Atul Patel, CEO of Anand Enterprise. His website in www.poweranand.com .
Please note that Mr. Patal no longer makes engines for Lovson. His service has been exceptional and I can recommend him for any further engine sales.
AYEEE...on to page 6!
 


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